1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:11,530 --> 00:00:09,209 [Applause] 3 00:00:13,299 --> 00:00:11,540 my name is Cynthia Phillips and I'm here 4 00:00:16,029 --> 00:00:13,309 representing the Europa Lander mission 5 00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:16,039 concept some of my partners in crime 6 00:00:21,490 --> 00:00:19,070 from the pre project project science 7 00:00:24,849 --> 00:00:21,500 group are a kevin hand morgan cable Amy 8 00:00:26,259 --> 00:00:24,859 Hoffman Kate craft as well as a number 9 00:00:27,759 --> 00:00:26,269 of people who are on the your plan 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:27,769 they're pre project science and 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:31,130 engineering teams so what is Europa 12 00:00:37,930 --> 00:00:31,930 Lander 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:37,940 title says to land on the surface of 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:41,090 Europa and one of the reasons why Europa 15 00:00:45,190 --> 00:00:42,890 is one of the best places to go in my 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:45,200 opinion in the solar system is that it 17 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:46,610 perhaps is one of the best places to 18 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:48,320 look for life beyond the earth and it's 19 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:50,000 a good place to look for extant life so 20 00:00:54,459 --> 00:00:51,590 life that can be there today 21 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:54,469 and so the Europa Lander mission concept 22 00:00:59,139 --> 00:00:56,510 started with a set of top-level science 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:00:59,149 goals these included a goal to search 24 00:01:03,999 --> 00:01:01,010 for evidence of bio signatures on Europa 25 00:01:06,790 --> 00:01:04,009 to assess the habitability of Europa via 26 00:01:08,290 --> 00:01:06,800 in situ techniques and to characterize 27 00:01:11,050 --> 00:01:08,300 the surface and the subsurface 28 00:01:13,300 --> 00:01:11,060 and as is typical when you have a 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:13,310 science definition team the SCT took 30 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:15,410 those set of goals and turned them into 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:19,729 a set of objectives these goals and 32 00:01:23,589 --> 00:01:21,170 objectives then become addressed with a 33 00:01:27,070 --> 00:01:23,599 focus model payload and so in this 34 00:01:29,260 --> 00:01:27,080 mission concept we now can expand these 35 00:01:30,850 --> 00:01:29,270 set these three goals into a number of 36 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:30,860 objectives that are shown around here 37 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:33,110 and then you can think about what 38 00:01:37,839 --> 00:01:35,330 instruments you would need and so in 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:37,849 this case we really wanted a focus 40 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:39,410 payload that would include instruments 41 00:01:42,219 --> 00:01:41,330 that would address more than one of 42 00:01:45,010 --> 00:01:42,229 these aspects of the mission 43 00:01:46,779 --> 00:01:45,020 simultaneously and so the model payload 44 00:01:48,940 --> 00:01:46,789 has a gas chromatograph mass 45 00:01:51,699 --> 00:01:48,950 spectrometer it has a microscope it has 46 00:01:53,830 --> 00:01:51,709 something like a Raman it has context 47 00:01:56,529 --> 00:01:53,840 camera or cameras and it also has a 48 00:01:59,529 --> 00:01:56,539 geophone or a seismic package and so 49 00:02:01,809 --> 00:01:59,539 when we combine together the the those 50 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:01,819 elements of the science payload we then 51 00:02:06,249 --> 00:02:04,310 have a robust mission concept and so the 52 00:02:09,180 --> 00:02:06,259 basic idea is that this D this is a 53 00:02:13,660 --> 00:02:09,190 large mission it has to launch on an SLS 54 00:02:15,699 --> 00:02:13,670 the cruise from Earth to Jupiter's about 55 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:15,709 five years on an SLS and that's with a 56 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:18,170 gravity assist either Mars or Earth 57 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:20,570 depending on the launch date and then 58 00:02:23,590 --> 00:02:22,100 it's about another two years after 59 00:02:26,170 --> 00:02:23,600 before we actually land on the surface 60 00:02:27,910 --> 00:02:26,180 of Europa the carrier stage in this 61 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:27,920 mission concept is that it's a dumb 62 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:29,840 carrier so basically all the brains are 63 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:31,730 on the lander itself you have a large 64 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:33,620 carrier it's actually larger than the 65 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:36,590 Europe a clipper wingspan but once it 66 00:02:40,510 --> 00:02:38,570 drops off its payload in Europe orbit 67 00:02:43,450 --> 00:02:40,520 the carrier flies off into a disposal 68 00:02:46,330 --> 00:02:43,460 orbit the just deorbit de-scented 69 00:02:48,340 --> 00:02:46,340 landing stage uses a sky crane this is 70 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:48,350 with a 10 meter tether and that's 71 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:49,610 because on Europe but there is no 72 00:02:53,050 --> 00:02:51,050 preacher atmosphere so that means that 73 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:53,060 aerobraking parachutes airbags just 74 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:55,010 don't work there but fortunately a sky 75 00:02:58,150 --> 00:02:56,330 crane turns out to work really well for 76 00:02:59,650 --> 00:02:58,160 delivering payload to the surface and 77 00:03:02,500 --> 00:02:59,660 actually because there's no atmosphere 78 00:03:04,420 --> 00:03:02,510 you are able to land with a hundred 79 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:04,430 meter accuracy there's nothing to blow 80 00:03:08,950 --> 00:03:07,760 you downstream you can just land you can 81 00:03:12,370 --> 00:03:08,960 basically pick a point on the surface 82 00:03:14,140 --> 00:03:12,380 and with some help along the way through 83 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:14,150 terrain relative navigation and an 84 00:03:17,410 --> 00:03:15,530 onboard lidar for hazard avoidance 85 00:03:19,690 --> 00:03:17,420 you're able to land on the surface 86 00:03:22,540 --> 00:03:19,700 basically wherever you want to put this 87 00:03:24,730 --> 00:03:22,550 and once you're on the surface it's a 88 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:24,740 bio signature science mission so the 89 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:26,570 idea is that will excavate to about 10 90 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:28,400 centimeters below the surface will 91 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:30,530 collect a sample I'm using a sampling 92 00:03:33,460 --> 00:03:31,850 system and then analyze it 93 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:33,470 onboard the spacecraft with that model 94 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:35,350 payload that I just discussed and 95 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:37,820 because Europa surfaces in such a high 96 00:03:42,310 --> 00:03:39,920 radiation environment what that means is 97 00:03:43,930 --> 00:03:42,320 that this is a short mission so we just 98 00:03:46,180 --> 00:03:43,940 heard about dragonfly which is about it 99 00:03:48,970 --> 00:03:46,190 two and a half year nominal mission here 100 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:48,980 we're talking about 22 days so it's a 101 00:03:52,990 --> 00:03:51,770 short compressed mission and as you'll 102 00:03:55,570 --> 00:03:53,000 see in a bit that requires quite a bit 103 00:03:57,850 --> 00:03:55,580 of autonomy to perform the mission but 104 00:03:59,440 --> 00:03:57,860 we believe that we're able to to perform 105 00:04:01,990 --> 00:03:59,450 this mission we're able to complete our 106 00:04:04,990 --> 00:04:02,000 science goals robustly even given that 107 00:04:07,510 --> 00:04:05,000 limited time span and so here's just a 108 00:04:09,330 --> 00:04:07,520 nice overview because it's always easier 109 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:09,340 to visualize something with a picture so 110 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:11,330 here's the Europa Lander spacecraft 111 00:04:15,430 --> 00:04:14,000 coming into Jupiter orbit and you can 112 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:15,440 see that the spacecraft here I'll just 113 00:04:20,590 --> 00:04:18,230 point out the mouse it's encased in a 114 00:04:22,030 --> 00:04:20,600 bio barrier planetary protection is an 115 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:22,040 important concern when we're landing on 116 00:04:25,450 --> 00:04:23,810 the surface of Europa but we have a 117 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:25,460 great team who's been addressing this 118 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:26,930 and we think that we can do this in a 119 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:29,270 way that that meets all of the planetary 120 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:31,250 protection requirements so the 121 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:32,960 spacecraft again we're on this very 122 00:04:35,230 --> 00:04:33,350 large 123 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:35,240 solar-powered carrier stage that's 124 00:04:39,250 --> 00:04:37,280 larger than the than the wingspan of the 125 00:04:40,540 --> 00:04:39,260 Europa clipper spacecraft so that's 126 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:40,550 about the size of a basketball field 127 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:43,970 we're talking a lot of solar panels we 128 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:46,160 dumped the carrier into a disposal orbit 129 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:49,070 and here comes the deorbit descent and 130 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:51,320 landing stage as the spacecraft is 131 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:54,080 released from its from its bio barrier 132 00:04:59,080 --> 00:04:57,170 it then takes over and so you can see 133 00:05:00,160 --> 00:04:59,090 here this this animation shows slightly 134 00:05:01,810 --> 00:05:00,170 you'll see you'll see a number of 135 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:01,820 different versions of the spacecraft 136 00:05:05,470 --> 00:05:03,380 throughout the imagery that I show in 137 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:05,480 this talk in this one you'll see that 138 00:05:09,220 --> 00:05:07,190 the landing portion looks slightly 139 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:09,230 different that's just because we still 140 00:05:12,820 --> 00:05:10,460 have a number of open trades on the 141 00:05:15,370 --> 00:05:12,830 engineering side as we proceed so here's 142 00:05:19,390 --> 00:05:15,380 the spacecraft we are continuing with 143 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:19,400 the descent stage and so we have a 144 00:05:23,650 --> 00:05:21,530 series of thrusters that are on the 145 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:23,660 spacecraft itself to basically 146 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:27,110 decelerate it and take it down there we 147 00:05:31,690 --> 00:05:29,120 go keep to it to decelerate it and take 148 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,700 it down to the surface once we get close 149 00:05:35,260 --> 00:05:33,440 to the surface we've already chosen a 150 00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:35,270 location on the surface to land using 151 00:05:38,650 --> 00:05:36,350 imagery from the Europa clipper 152 00:05:40,330 --> 00:05:38,660 spacecraft and now we're heading for 153 00:05:42,460 --> 00:05:40,340 that location using something called 154 00:05:43,780 --> 00:05:42,470 terrain relative navigation that means 155 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:43,790 that we've loaded the highest resolution 156 00:05:48,340 --> 00:05:46,250 images we have of the landing site from 157 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:48,350 Europe a clipper and then images that 158 00:05:52,180 --> 00:05:50,000 are taken during landing are matched to 159 00:05:54,250 --> 00:05:52,190 that as well as active hazard voidance 160 00:05:55,660 --> 00:05:54,260 so that we can land on the surface so 161 00:05:58,270 --> 00:05:55,670 you saw those adaptable landing 162 00:05:59,530 --> 00:05:58,280 stabilizer legs as it came down the 163 00:06:01,600 --> 00:05:59,540 spacecraft is actually supported by a 164 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:01,610 belly pan that's right in the center the 165 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:04,010 stabilizers basically help so that if 166 00:06:10,210 --> 00:06:07,610 you land on an obstacle that's nominally 167 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:10,220 about half a meter high up to as much as 168 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:12,710 a meter you're still able to land you 169 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:15,290 lock the stabilizer legs in place once 170 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:16,910 the belly pan touches the surface and 171 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:18,770 that holds the deck in a nice horizontal 172 00:06:23,710 --> 00:06:21,170 position even if you land on very rough 173 00:06:25,870 --> 00:06:23,720 terrain once the spacecraft has checked 174 00:06:29,770 --> 00:06:25,880 out the surroundings we then undock the 175 00:06:31,390 --> 00:06:29,780 sampling arm so this device had in in 176 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:31,400 this this version and again this is also 177 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:33,530 an open trade in this version we have a 178 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:36,170 Bible aid saw tool which is able to dig 179 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:38,870 about 10 centimeters below the surface 180 00:06:42,909 --> 00:06:40,910 and 10 centimeters is far enough down 181 00:06:45,250 --> 00:06:42,919 where you're below the bulk of the 182 00:06:46,930 --> 00:06:45,260 radiation processing and so what that 183 00:06:49,030 --> 00:06:46,940 means is that we can sample more 184 00:06:51,220 --> 00:06:49,040 in surface material to look for those 185 00:06:52,810 --> 00:06:51,230 evidence of bio signatures once we've 186 00:06:54,130 --> 00:06:52,820 dug that trench and of course in real 187 00:06:55,810 --> 00:06:54,140 life digging the trench would take a bit 188 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:55,820 longer and yes and tailings to deal with 189 00:06:59,770 --> 00:06:57,770 but here you're basically collecting now 190 00:07:01,420 --> 00:06:59,780 a sample from the bottom of that trench 191 00:07:02,830 --> 00:07:01,430 and in this version we're using a sample 192 00:07:04,410 --> 00:07:02,840 acquisition system that's a little bit 193 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:04,420 similar to what we did on Mars Phoenix 194 00:07:08,470 --> 00:07:06,470 and we're looking at multiple different 195 00:07:09,940 --> 00:07:08,480 ways of doing that the sample is then 196 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:09,950 transferred to the spacecraft and then 197 00:07:13,810 --> 00:07:11,390 again onboard the spacecraft we have 198 00:07:16,210 --> 00:07:13,820 that model payload of analysis 199 00:07:18,970 --> 00:07:16,220 instruments including a GCMs a Raman a 200 00:07:21,130 --> 00:07:18,980 microscope and again we also have a 201 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:21,140 seismometer a geophone as well as 202 00:07:27,100 --> 00:07:23,840 context cameras on the surface and so 203 00:07:31,210 --> 00:07:27,110 this would take place semi-autonomous Li 204 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:31,220 there is room for ground input but a lot 205 00:07:35,140 --> 00:07:32,690 of the a lot of what needs to be done 206 00:07:37,060 --> 00:07:35,150 needs to be done autonomously by the 207 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:37,070 spacecraft so here's just some details 208 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:40,190 showing you can see here that the the 209 00:07:44,410 --> 00:07:42,800 landing feet here look a little bit more 210 00:07:46,150 --> 00:07:44,420 speed half spherical rather than the 211 00:07:47,580 --> 00:07:46,160 flat ones previously so we're looking at 212 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:47,590 a number of different foot designs 213 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:51,050 perhaps these here can be deformable so 214 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:52,850 that again if you land on rough tree and 215 00:07:57,970 --> 00:07:54,350 you're able to stabilize yourself more 216 00:08:00,370 --> 00:07:57,980 carefully and so when we're thinking 217 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:00,380 about the science surface operations of 218 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:00,890 this mission 219 00:08:05,170 --> 00:08:02,990 we start with Europe a clipper data and 220 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:05,180 that provides us with a scientifically 221 00:08:10,750 --> 00:08:07,490 compelling landing site with a number of 222 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:10,760 these candidates and so the instruments 223 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:12,800 on clipper will give us surface 224 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:14,960 composition morphology degree of 225 00:08:19,570 --> 00:08:17,210 radiation processing etc and we'll use 226 00:08:21,070 --> 00:08:19,580 that data to help select a site that's 227 00:08:22,630 --> 00:08:21,080 scientifically interesting but is also 228 00:08:24,370 --> 00:08:22,640 viable from an engineering perspective 229 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:24,380 we want to make sure we can land there 230 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:28,370 safely the because again of that of the 231 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:32,240 primary battery architecture that comes 232 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:34,310 from the fact that radiation damage 233 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:36,050 would probably destroy the spacecraft in 234 00:08:39,459 --> 00:08:38,000 approximately a month so there's no 235 00:08:41,050 --> 00:08:39,469 point in bringing more power than you 236 00:08:43,779 --> 00:08:41,060 need so this is a mission where it 237 00:08:46,750 --> 00:08:43,789 doesn't make sense to use an RTG using 238 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:46,760 batteries that are sized to be able to 239 00:08:49,900 --> 00:08:48,320 survive to keep your spacecraft alive 240 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:49,910 long enough to do its primary mission 241 00:08:53,410 --> 00:08:51,770 but you basically want to run out of 242 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:53,420 battery power about the time when 243 00:08:57,070 --> 00:08:55,040 radiation damage would have killed your 244 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:57,080 spacecraft anyway and so these are open 245 00:09:00,070 --> 00:08:58,130 trades that we're working with the 246 00:09:00,610 --> 00:09:00,080 engineering team but we'll need the 247 00:09:01,930 --> 00:09:00,620 lander to be 248 00:09:03,340 --> 00:09:01,940 highly automated we'll need it to be 249 00:09:06,460 --> 00:09:03,350 designed for uncertain surface 250 00:09:08,910 --> 00:09:06,470 topography and materials and again we'll 251 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:08,920 need a high degree of autonomy for the 252 00:09:13,450 --> 00:09:11,210 location of the trench that we choose to 253 00:09:14,740 --> 00:09:13,460 take and how samples are acquired from 254 00:09:17,980 --> 00:09:14,750 that trench and analyzed by the 255 00:09:19,450 --> 00:09:17,990 instrumentation so an exciting bit of 256 00:09:23,170 --> 00:09:19,460 progress on the Europa Lander mission 257 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:23,180 concept is that we recently had 14 teams 258 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:24,770 that were selected as part of this ic2 259 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:27,950 program through NASA roses and so those 260 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:29,810 teams are listed here and you can see 261 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:30,950 that many of these fit into the 262 00:09:34,780 --> 00:09:32,540 categories that were listed in the model 263 00:09:36,460 --> 00:09:34,790 payload there's with some interesting 264 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:36,470 additions that are left to die down here 265 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:40,310 on the right such as a and so so 266 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:42,050 basically what this does is it allows us 267 00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:44,210 to work with these teams to really help 268 00:09:48,340 --> 00:09:45,740 to mature their technology and really 269 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:48,350 help mature not just this not just their 270 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:50,120 instrument concept but to think about 271 00:09:53,770 --> 00:09:51,770 how these instruments will work with the 272 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:53,780 whole spacecraft because clearly on a 273 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:55,730 spacecraft like this that is it's small 274 00:10:00,400 --> 00:09:58,130 it's very limited in mass power volume 275 00:10:01,750 --> 00:10:00,410 and time we have to have a payload that 276 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:01,760 works very well together and that's 277 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:04,490 highly integrated so as we think about 278 00:10:08,020 --> 00:10:06,050 the path forward for this Europa Lander 279 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:08,030 mission concept again this is not a 280 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:09,440 mission that has been funded yet we have 281 00:10:13,810 --> 00:10:11,600 not yet gone into phase a but the 282 00:10:15,580 --> 00:10:13,820 mission has years of development behind 283 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:15,590 it and it's really a very mature and 284 00:10:22,780 --> 00:10:18,560 exciting mission concept and so over the 285 00:10:24,820 --> 00:10:22,790 next two years we have about 50 actually 286 00:10:26,770 --> 00:10:24,830 advanced development activities and so 287 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:26,780 these include lab work on cryogenic ice 288 00:10:31,180 --> 00:10:29,120 properties improvements of the sampling 289 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:31,190 system studies of surface autonomy 290 00:10:35,710 --> 00:10:33,610 better development of battery design 291 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:35,720 more study of planetary protection 292 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:39,110 constraints a detailed look at 293 00:10:43,510 --> 00:10:40,970 contamination control how can we make 294 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:43,520 sure that the thrusters on the rocket 295 00:10:48,490 --> 00:10:46,010 don't actually don't actually disturb 296 00:10:50,260 --> 00:10:48,500 the surface to a to grade 2 degree for 297 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:50,270 us to be able to sample pristine 298 00:10:55,330 --> 00:10:53,750 material and so the teams on IC 2 299 00:10:56,860 --> 00:10:55,340 they'll be working with the Europa 300 00:10:59,530 --> 00:10:56,870 Lander pre project for the next two 301 00:11:01,540 --> 00:10:59,540 years yesterday we had a very successful 302 00:11:03,310 --> 00:11:01,550 workshop called the instrumentation for 303 00:11:05,530 --> 00:11:03,320 the institute exploration of Europa and 304 00:11:07,510 --> 00:11:05,540 ocean world's we had about 150 305 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:07,520 participants thank you to those of you 306 00:11:10,750 --> 00:11:09,440 came again we apologize for the very 307 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:10,760 small room but that really shows the 308 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:12,800 excitement about these but this future 309 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:14,430 exploration 310 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:16,320 and we're likely going to be hosting a 311 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:19,250 full multi-day workshop early next year 312 00:11:23,870 --> 00:11:21,360 we also need to be thinking about the 313 00:11:26,090 --> 00:11:23,880 Takeda survey for those of us who think 314 00:11:28,190 --> 00:11:26,100 about in-situ exploration of ocean icy 315 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:28,200 worlds Europa Lander needs to be a 316 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:30,930 priority even with the exciting 317 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:32,970 selection of dragonfly that's a very 318 00:11:39,470 --> 00:11:35,880 different end member from the surface of 319 00:11:41,060 --> 00:11:39,480 a place like Europa and so it'll be very 320 00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:41,070 interesting to see what dragonfly gives 321 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:42,779 us but it would be really even more 322 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:44,190 interesting if we could compare and 323 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,529 contrast what we see on the surface of a 324 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:48,480 world like Titan with what we see on the 325 00:11:51,740 --> 00:11:51,360 surface of a world like Europa and all 326 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:51,750 in there 327 00:11:53,090 --> 00:11:52,770 thank you